I’m resigning as a moderator from all Stack Exchange sites, effective today.
I didn’t make this decision lightly, frivolously or suddenly. A persistent pattern of corporate missteps, and a monumentally deplorable moderator dismissal, has compelled me to re-evaluate my relationship with Stack Exchange.
You won’t miss me much. The latest crop of moderators has done a fine job at keeping the infamous Stack Overflow Moderator Flag Queue™ under control.
Special thanks to Shog9, Tim Post and all of the CMs, who have been nothing but supportive, helpful and educational, even when I was probably a bit more volatile than I should have been. My problems with the network have nothing to do with them.
It has been a privilege serving you.
I don’t get it.
Thousands of unanswerable questions a day come in, the experts and teachers who made this site what it is are leaving faster than new ones join, the moderation tools never get improved, comments under poor questions become harsher, and suddenly someone tweets that
the site is full of elitist, misogynist snobs and then a blog gets posted stating that we should all be more friendly to one another, while question quality keeps dropping and it’s harder and harder for people to find interesting questions to answer.
Meanwhile, the site has turned into “debug this code for me“, and loads of users happily oblige, not contributing to the knowledge base it was once supposed to become.
And now a mass exodus of moderators occurs. What happened in between? What is happening to the site, can someone succinctly explain that to us out of the loop?
Well, this was unexpected.
All I can really do now is thank you for putting in the effort you did to help along Stack Overflow.
Don’t be too much of a stranger.
In the time I’ve taken a break from the site, I’ve spent more time being made aware of what is going on than when I was active on the site.
I’m sorry to lose you. I have a great deal of respect for you and enjoyed modding with you.
I can’t upvote your question – the downvote is because we’re losing you.
Losing moderators of your standing must mean something.
I sincerely hope that SE learns something from this and don’t just use their iron fist as a castle in which to hide and rule and expect everyone to unquestioningly keep tilling the fields while the gibbet swings above them…
We will miss you. Thanks for all that you’ve done for our community.
Sorry to hear this Rob, always enjoyed working with you back when I held my diamond. Sounds like SE is being infected by the Woke virus with this preferred pronoun nonsense – but it’s not my site so I don’t have a freedom of expression leg I can stand on. Can’t say I use the SE network much any more, and will likely use it less now. Which is a shame because there are some great folks such as Tim and Shog who’ve always been fair, rational and very supportive of the unpaid volunteer diamond mods.
I think the way the community and volunteer mods have been treated by SE is a bit cheeky despite the many hours of work they/we put into making this work from the beginning.
Also my heart sank upon hearing a certain individual arrived out of the blue as a “Director” despite having so little meaningful activity on SO. I didn’t think this particular individual would be well suited to their new role, and recent events have just proved this.
Wee bit of an edit here. In Sara Chipps’ blogpost here:
She blethers on about:
The team formerly known as DAG (Developer Advocacy and Growth), now part of the Community team, started by rolling out the Tag Synonyms Refresh.
As far as I know, I was the “community member” that suggested Tag Synonyms back in 2009:
Now I’m not getting all salty here, but y’know SE at least try and attribute major feature enhancements that were driven by the community. Sure there are minor enhancements which are hard to track down and attribute, but the big stuff (which I’m trawling through just now on old meta posts) that moved the community along, how’s about some gratitude.
SE has a serious “tin ear” problem with the unpaid folks from back in the day that made this site successful that now pays your rent.
I’m kinda in a f*** you mode right now. This wasn’t the community I joined back in ’08, sure communities change, money has to be made, but the abstracted away corporates are living off of our original work and ideas when it was Jeff, Jarod and Joel….and the community.
When I handed back my diamond mod, all I got for the hundreds of moderation hours was a fricken mug and some shit pens (it’s ok Tim, you’d no control over that). You need to do better than this, how about useful stuff like some Amazon vouchers for exiting diamonds to show your appreciation? You spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on new offices and data center environments, but you don’t treat mods with any kind of respect or value. We helped get you here.
I kinda feel this “honour to be a mod” is a racket. It’s unpaid work. Hell at least if I drive an Uber or cycle madly round the city as a Deliveroo driver I can at least get some kinda payback. But SO/SE has played on this “great honour” for far too long. Maybe it’s time diamond mods do actually strike and maybe test the law for what in my country would be called “unjust enrichment”, especially if SE is able to carry through an IPO.
We used to talk about the terribleness of help/question vampires but I kinda feel SE Corporate has also in a way sucked our community dry, and sucked the goodwill out of many of us.
I’m sorry we’re losing you.
They say if you want to judge someone’s character give them power over someone else and see what they do with it.
You were always willing to put in the extra bit of effort to help and explain. Tough, fair, and kind. We were a better site with you as a mod.
I deeply regret that you can’t say the same of those with power over you.
We’re sad to see you go after serving the community for 8+ long years. You were a mod even before lots of people including me, joining this community.
You people did a really hard work to create a good space for us to join, ask, answer and interact with others and we never felt getting abused or trolled by any others, unlike many other communities.
The hardest part of any community is its starting phase, where the new joiners won’t follow rules, abuse others, post stupid things, etc. Even if I was not a member of any SE community at that time, I know how much you suffered to build up this community.
Many of us were aware of the things happening last week and it’s really hard to see a moderator (Monica) who helped the community and its members feel safe, without charging a single penny in this 21th century, has been mercilessly removed by the director(s).
Not to mention, a former SE employee also got his account suspended for 5 long years recently, which makes us think that at least some of the new staff in this company never want anyone to speak against them and don’t want to hear any criticism.
When considering the publicly available information, as you said, I don’t believe the community managers have anything to do with this, other than following orders. We interacted with many CM’s like Shog, Jon, Tim, etc. in the chat rooms, and they work hard to improve the community. But still, they’re employees and they’ve to follow orders by the employer.
While the one among the two, behind this successful company, Joel is going to step down as CEO (we lost the main one, Jeff Atwood, years ago), we people are really confused about the future of this community.
I remember you from my very first week here. That’s years ago.
Thanks for your great service and for all your help!
Sorry to hear it.
You’ve done a great job here.
Best of luck.
Let’s hope the company doesn’t muck up what has become an indispensable site.
It must have taken a lot to get to this point. The technologies I use overlapped with yours and in the past I have enjoyed our encounters. You often provided sage outlook to users in need, and the behind the scenes work you did was probably not heralded, but was certainly noticed.
I hope the resignation is something that you can work out somehow going forward. If not, that is just the way the world works sometimes.
All the best.
I don’t know you but as a Stack Overflow user I would like to thank you and hope this decision to make your later times full of happiness.
Hope you are going to do more awesome work.
We will miss you.
Thanks for being here and whatever you’ve done for our community.
It’s sad for you to leave, but many thanks for your investment in the Stack Exchange community. Your work and assistance will live on.
Sorry to hear that. I wish you the best luck for the future. I hope everything will be as you wanted.
Thanks for everything you’ve done for Stack Exchange community.